“Cook this for your mother” The owner of “Traffic” Aram Mnatsakanov about the participants of “Hell’s Kitchen”, restaurant dramas and Moscow gastronomy. Semyon Kolesnikov: “I prepared salty cottage cheese for pregnant women instead of sweet
“, but I saw familiar faces in the kitchen, and the question disappeared.
- Two people, but both probationary period. Alexey (Gnitienko, dropped out in the 11th episode. - Note ed.) as a sous-chef, and Zhenya (Nyrkova, finalist - Note ed.) in a confectionery shop - just a cook.
— How many people came to you based on the advertisements you placed in magazines?
- Not so much. People come, we sift out - there is a lot of impossible trash. But they came not only through magazines, through other channels. It’s very difficult in Moscow with staff. About twenty percent here are my St. Petersburg staff, and we rely on them.
- What does it mean to have a lot of slag? Excessive demands?
- I have?
- Not really. Even if you make them rich, they won’t be able to do anything. It’s just, probably, against the backdrop of the very large Moscow labor market, people who can do at least something already consider themselves professionals and evaluate themselves a little inadequately. Not in terms of money - at all. It is almost impossible to find people who know how to cook. All they do is repeat knowledge acquired fragmentarily in different places. There is no basis, they do not understand the essence of the processes that take place in the kitchen. No one can explain the boiling of water. And let’s be honest, you and I will go through twenty Moscow restaurants, order twenty carbonara pastas - and get twenty different dishes. Not only are the cooks idiots, but their owners are idiots. Because they buy a page in the magazine and write: our chef Denis Batareikin has prepared for you a fantastic gazpacho with crayfish tails, mousse I don’t even know what, and some kind of tartar. But there is no gazpacho either with mousse, or with tartar, or with any necks. Prepare this for your mother and let her kiss you. In France, in any restaurant, ask for tartare, they will give you tartare. Our tartare is always a surprise. This is how our restaurant community is structured, and this is how our chefs are trained. Recently I asked in one rather expensive Russian hotel rice porridge. They cooked me rice porridge, and there was this ketchup on top ( depicts a curl). So how to react to this? The cook decided that since a famous chef came, he couldn’t just give him porridge, he had to do something to make the chef stunned. And the boss was stunned. It's all related to general condition culture and everything in the country in general. In the minds of Russian people, a cook is someone who is incapable of anything else, cooks for pennies and steals. And I’m trying to make this profession prestigious. We have, apparently, the only restaurant in the country where the whole team dines in a common room. Everyone sits together at a certain table. So this restaurant is the quintessence of my thoughts about restaurant life.
“There is no gazpacho with mousse, or with tartar, or with any necks. Prepare this for your mother, and let her kiss you.”
— The chefs eat in the hall, but banquets are prohibited at Probka and your other establishments?
- Not that they are completely prohibited. But the restaurant is designed in such a way that there are tables for two, four, six, eight and twelve people in its place. If your event fits into this format, we will be happy. We will not move tables for anyone. Theoretically, you can imagine that people could book all the tables three months in advance, that they would have a regular menu and no one would say anything into a microphone. But practically this is hardly feasible. For me, the maximum format in which you can hear your interlocutor and enjoy the food and atmosphere is determined by the table sizes that I told you about. If there are more than seven people at the table, misunderstandings will begin. But we, Russians, - broad people, I made big tables. And it turns out that we seat three different companies of two or three people at a table with twelve seats. And everyone is happy. Five years ago this was impossible. People are slowly socializing and enjoying it.
— Why did you open a restaurant in Moscow right now?
- And this is a chance. If such a premises with such conditions as I received had not come to me due to life circumstances, then there would not have been a restaurant here. I immediately declared that this was my first and only restaurant in Moscow. There won't be a second one.
— Will the menu in “Traffic” change?
- Only seasonal changes. The menu should not change.
- What if something doesn’t work out?
- What do you mean it won’t work? Here are the dishes that I love.
“But suddenly they will order something a maximum of two or three times a week.”
- This means that the staff is not working well. I believe that a menu should be made to last. I don’t want to do it, as is customary in Moscow, but I can afford it. And not only that. We may be the only restaurant—well, maybe there are others, I don’t know—that doesn’t have a single product, not a single drink, not a single refrigerator that was supplied to us free of charge as part of the marketing budget. There is not a single item on the wine list that I personally don’t like. All the equipment in the kitchen - the most modern - belongs to me. It’s not like people come and say: here’s your coffee, we’ll give you a car for 10 thousand euros, but for that you have to sell 60 kilograms of our coffee a month. And this is the case in ninety-nine percent of the restaurants you know.
— Are the relationships between people in your company the same as in Hell’s Kitchen?
- Of course not. The tasks are different. Hell's Kitchen is competitive. Chefs are created extreme conditions so that they show their best qualities. You come, they give you semolina and say: you have half an hour, surprise. If you just cook semolina porridge, then you won't win. You need to use your imagination, remember everything you can, understand what kind of product it is and what it goes with. And it turns out that the strong suddenly turn out to be weak in spirit, and someone, gray as a mouse, was a bad cook, but suddenly found the strength in himself and began to do things that really amaze you. This is not a culinary program at all, it’s practically an army. And in my restaurant I must create a team in which people work in the most comfortable conditions. So that everyone loves each other and sings in the kitchen.
— And what the chefs cook in the first episode “ Hell's Kitchen" when introducing yourself - is it really that terrible?
- Yes. You know, in my company I also hold a competition once a year - cook what you love. The first prize is 50 thousand rubles. All chefs participate. So, in my company it happens that mother is dear. The chefs prepare pasta with vongole in the restaurant, and then come home and make meat for their family in French. Something the French have never seen in their lives: mayonnaise, cheese, tomato, eggplant, cheese on top - and into the oven. Same thing in Hell's Kitchen. A man could come from Siberia and say: I always ate fried mushrooms with potatoes, I'll make them. But ours is carp with foie gras, baked peppers, shallots and carom sauce. Where do they get this from? Now I have a second show coming out in Ukraine, “On Knives,” about how I remodel restaurants. What Ramsay calls “Kitchen Nightmares”. And you're in nightmare You won't see such heroes. Their restaurants are going under, they are in the red, their apartment is mortgaged, their family is on the verge of divorce. But what do people do in their restaurant, what kind of know-how do they use... You can imagine: a person leases his restaurant to his own employees and pays them five or ten percent for what they do. The whole kitchen is divided into sections: people are fighting over tiles and pans. There are restaurants where the chef does not taste the food. I ask: why? And he: I’m doing sports now, counting calories, and in general I don’t eat this kind of stuff in the summer. Well, I tell them: well, that means you are assholes, life is punishing you correctly. And then they don’t believe me that my reaction was not faked.
— Do restaurateurs come to you themselves?
- Certainly. They have the program stuck in their heads " Housing issue“When they come to your home and say: Vasily Alibabaevich, go away for two days, we’ll sort it out ourselves.” And then they come - and they have a luxurious apartment. But they don’t understand that our conditions are different. I come, watch how they work, catch up with people to see how restaurants cope with a full house, start rummaging through the refrigerators and find this... And then I take them by the scruff of the neck and show them what’s wrong. My chefs are running straight from the set, followed by operators with cameras, and I say after them: for you not to be here, you are a disgrace to our profession. The owners, of course, after some time suddenly realize that they are being undressed in front of the whole world, and begin to yell at each other. There was a case - two owners took out money on credit, made a monstrous place, one thinks it should be done this way, the other thinks it should be done differently. They don’t know how to come to an agreement, they hate each other, they can’t buy each other’s shares because there is no money. They are forced to exist and decided this: one month runs the restaurant, another month the second. Once a month they transfer cases to each other. The one who takes over dismisses all those whom the first one hired. And the first one immediately steps in and fires them. They almost got into a fight with me on set. People forget about microphones and forty-eight cameras. Life as it is. I think this show will be more popular than Hell's Kitchen.
— By the way, what did “Hell’s Kitchen” give you as a restaurateur?
- First of all, new life experience. I've never worked as a chef. That is, I could go into the kitchen in my restaurant and prepare Armenian food for guests, for example. And here I was forced to become a chef in the kitchen. And it was so presumptuous because I had never managed two kitchens of eight people. But everything seemed to work out. And I think that as a chef I have become an order of magnitude better over the three “Hell’s Kitchens” that I went through. He turned from just a restaurant manager into a real kitchen manager. Secondly, I got to know a huge number of people. Plus, as they say now, he capitalized his personal brand.
— And that’s why you write on the window of Probka “Aram Mnatsakanov’s restaurant”?
- Yes, that's probably why. Now, after all, people understand what Mnatsakanov is.
— What happened to Semyon Kolesnikov, who won “Hell’s Kitchen”?
— He is at home in Bryansk. Some people with money entrusted him with a restaurant. I met him. He tells me: “They told me to do whatever you want with the restaurant.” And showed photographs. My hair stood on end: what is this? He says: “The restaurant is called Grishka Rasputin.” I say the first thing you do is change the name. “No, the name cannot be changed.” Damn it! There are simply no words.
We have already written that the 27-year-old Bryansk cook Semyon Kolesnikov won the show “Hell's Kitchen” on the REN-TV channel and received main prize- 3 million rubles. And now he dreams of opening his own restaurant in our city.
ABOUT HIS PARTICIPATION IN HELL'S KITCHEN
I sent the application form and got to the casting. There turned out to be about three thousand people there, then 120 of them were left, and at the last stage there were 17 of us left. Filming ended in December last year. But the intrigue continued until May 31.
There were different people, some deliberately played for the camera, tried to curry favor with the chef, and pretended to be great chefs. But there were also normal, adequate people who clearly knew why they came and understood how to behave. A
I simply did not interfere in conflicts, I tried to stay calm.
The first days were the most difficult and difficult - just some kind of nightmare! No phone, no TV, no Internet. We had a landline phone, and we could use it to call home about once every three days. This was the only connection with the outside world.
At the very beginning I didn’t think about winning at all. In one evening everything could turn upside down. You could have several excellent dinners, but fail at one - and that’s it, you could just be thrown out. The boss was very strict. In the final I was already thinking: if I win, if I don’t win, it doesn’t matter...
I always tried to do things differently from everyone else. It seems to me than simpler recipe, the better it is. In French and Italian cuisines, nothing is invented. I remember that during the project, 36 pregnant women were invited to one of the competitions. It was necessary to prepare something for them from cottage cheese. Everyone started preparing sweet dishes, and I decided to make savory ones. In the end I won.
And once I won a competition where they prepared semolina porridge. I prepared it in the form of an eclair, the chef didn’t even immediately realize that it was semolina.
ABOUT THE PROFESSION OF A COOK
My father and mother are civil engineers and wanted me to follow in their footsteps. After school I tried to enter BITM, but failed in the exams. I was late to submit documents to other universities, so I had to go to the Trade and Economic College. Before this, I couldn’t cook anything other than scrambled eggs. My older brother is a chef by profession, but now he is doing something else. You can say that I followed in his footsteps.
I think that the main thing for a chef is to constantly cook, to love cooking. The more experience, the more the taste and culinary culture develop.
ABOUT TASTY FOOD AND YOUR FAVORITE DISH
The most important thing for me is delicious food. My favorite dish- tuna steak, Chinese style, I am ready to eat it all the time. The most important thing about it is the sauce. Although in fact I am absolutely a “meat person”. If there is no meat at home, then there is nothing to eat (laughs).
I also really love Italian cuisine. I like mixing, I like experimenting. For example, molecular cuisine is now popular (“Molecular cuisine” is called fashion trend in cooking, denoting various dishes with unusual properties and combinations of components. - Approx. Auto). They do such things there that take your breath away!
And my mother cooks at home, and she makes it very tasty. In general, the most delicious food for me is my mother’s. I can cook something special, but she almost always cooks. In my family, my wife will also cook, and I will help her if necessary. I'm single for now, but I have a girlfriend...
ABOUT THE FUTURE RESTAURANT
After the show, I was invited to many restaurants, including Moscow and St. Petersburg. But I want to stay in Bryansk. I'm just looking for a place for a small restaurant. But the problem is finances. I can’t yet find people with the same culinary views as mine.
I would like to make a place where people can come and try not “like Italian” or “like French” cuisine, but really Italian or French. I want visitors to come to relax and enjoy, and not stupidly “fill their stomach.” But most of all I want to change the culinary culture itself in Bryansk. I generally have a lot of different ideas, I understand that it will be difficult to implement them all, but I am ready for difficulties and I feel that everything should work out for me. I want my restaurant to be absolutely different from those that now exist in Bryansk. I'll reveal the secret and say that there won't be huge amount dishes on the menu, it will not be bloated. But everything will be of exceptional quality and exclusive.
Bryansk chef Semyon Kolesnikov won the popular culinary show “Hell's Kitchen” on the REN-TV channel and received the main prize - 3 million rubles. He says that he will open his own restaurant with this money. In the final, he fought with a participant from Voronezh, Evgenia Nyrkova. The guy is only 27 years old, and he is already being invited to work in best restaurants Moscow and St. Petersburg. But Semyon wants to stay in Bryansk. Perhaps because he has a girlfriend here.
Semyon Kolesnikov gave exclusive interview"KP".
BECAME A COOK... OUT OF NECESSITY
- Semyon, how did you become a cook?
In fact, I became a cook out of necessity. After school I tried to enter BITM, but failed in the exams. I was late to submit documents to other universities, so I had to go to the Trade and Economic College.
- How did your parents react to your choice?
My father and mother are civil engineers, they wanted me to follow in their footsteps, but, as you can see, it didn’t work out.
- How did you get to Hell’s Kitchen?
I sent in an application and got to the casting. There turned out to be about three thousand people there, then 120 of them were left, and at the last stage there were 17 of us left. Filming ended in December last year. But the intrigue continued until May 31.
- Semyon, how did you feel after the first dinner?
The first one was just a nightmare! It was tough at the beginning, and the first days were the most difficult and difficult. No phone, no TV, no Internet. We had a landline phone, and we could use it to call home about once every three days. This was the only connection with the outside world.
- During the program, you tried not to get into conflicts, how did you manage to do that?
I just didn’t interfere and tried to stay calm.
“CHEF WAS VERY STRICT”
- Did you manage to establish friendly relations with someone on the project?
- When I was in the “blue” team, we actually had a whole “gang” there: me, Roma, Vanya, Zhenya Barabanschikov. But most of all we became friends with Sergei Seliverstov from Pyatigorsk. We still call him and talk to him on the Internet.
- When there were four of you left, did you already guess that you would win?
- Yes, I even expected victory. And at the very beginning I didn’t think about it at all. If you look at all the issues, it really turns out that I somehow won the most individual competitions and did not fail in positions. But the fact is that in one evening everything could turn upside down. You could have several excellent dinners, but fail at one - and that’s it, you could just be thrown out. The boss was very strict.
- How did you feel in the finale?
- I didn’t feel anything at that moment, my head was just empty. And I was already thinking: if I win, I won’t win, it doesn’t matter...
“THE MOST DELICIOUS FOOD FOR ME IS MOTHER’S”
- What are you planning to do now?
After the show, I was invited to many restaurants, but to other cities, including restaurants in Moscow and St. Petersburg. But I want to stay in Bryansk, I want to open a small restaurant here. I'm just looking for a place for it. But the problem is finances. I can't yet find people with the same culinary views as mine.
- How do you see your future restaurant?
- I would like to make a place where people can come and try not “like Italian” or “like French” cuisine, but really Italian or French. I want visitors to come to relax and enjoy, and not stupidly “fill their stomach.” But most of all I want to change the culinary culture itself in Bryansk.
- What is important to you in cooking?
- It's very simple. For me, the most important thing is delicious food.
- Semyon, do you cook at home for your family?
- No, my mother cooks at home, and she makes it very tasty. In general, the most delicious food for me is my mother’s. I can cook something special, but she almost always cooks.
- Semyon, now you eligible bachelor, are there any contenders for the title of your wife?
For now, I'm not married, but I have a girlfriend.
- Who in the family will cook - you or your wife?
Of course the wife! She will cook, and I will help her, if necessary.
- What is your favorite cuisine?
Italian. In general, I like mixing, I like experimenting. For example, molecular cuisine is now popular (“Molecular cuisine” is a fashionable trend in cooking that refers to various dishes with unusual properties and combinations of components. - Author’s note). They do such things there that they take your breath away.
- Favorite dish?
Tuna steak, Chinese style. The most important thing about it is the sauce. I tried it in one of the restaurants.
- Semyon, what, in your opinion, is the most important thing in the profession of a cook?
I think that the main thing for a chef is to constantly cook, to love cooking. The more experience, the more the taste and culinary culture develop.